Callie Means: Are the food and pharmaceutical industries conspiring to keep us sick? Max Hastings: I was floored. The primary government nutrition program in the United States is spent on sugary drinks, which is just insane. And then that soda itself is being subsidized right with all of our subsidies with the with corn subsidies, which goes into high-food disc horn syrup. So we're really like literally rigging that system to subsidize these drinks and these this poison that's leading then to trillions of dollars of downstream medical costs.