"It's completely the opposite of what the perception is. The perception is everybody that's rich is a piece of shit," he says. "If you don't have leverage in the beginning, which you don't, you have to overcompetate by being a great person and opening more doors by giving first and getting screwed." He adds: "I truly am bought into that mindset,. And I'm not looking for a ticker tape parade or anything, but just like, I don't know, Don't make it fucking harder!"

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