Bloomberg Business Week with Carol Messer and Tim Stinevech on Bloomberg Radio a story about how startups are getting created. Some of that creativity is raising eyebrows well we got a great voice with us he's quoted in this story Ken Smythe from next round capital partners who helps start up startups obtain financing. We're seeing an environment which is drastically shifted in the last 12 months particularly I think investors obviously are kind of coming off a very very rosy scenario which was 2020-2021 where multiples were sky high and people were paying for growth at any cost.

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