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Episode 478: Foreign Policy, Adoption, & Race with Esau McCaulley & Jamie Ivey

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Jamie, you were in proximity to people of color but never really experienced or had to wrestle with what their lives were like. How different would your life have been at 16 or 17 years old if you sat down and listened to some of those black classmates? Jamie: I think there are young people who are doing that more and more. sharin, i applaud you for the care and wisdom you're taking in protecting your kids while trying to maintain this platform and using it. That's a tough tight rope to walk.

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