The Problem With Achievements in Games

I'm in that boat of it has never really been a big draw. I know there's a lot of people that care about them, but it feels like Mr. Thylander is speaking to a very, very niche group of people and not a large segment of the population. It does feel like perhaps for a small subsection, there people get distracted by it or it diverts from the game. But overall, I feel like they're, they're so ignorable if you choose. They can be used as an substitute for making it worthwhile in the context of the game itself to do a thing.