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059. Fred Dust: Designing Hard Conversations to Solve Big Problems

Leading Transformational Change with Tobias Sturesson

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The Seven Seas of Conversation

"Conversations are not just kind of happening, but there are conversations that we design to actually move us forward," says Ndt. "We often come into a conversation being like, i'm going to change this person's mind." In order to even enter into the conversation, we first have to feel like we're committed to that conversation., she adds.

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