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237: For When Things Are Changing (with John Freeman)

The Next Right Thing

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Is There a Human Experience That You're Hearing From People?

John: I'm hearing a lot of longing for god, but not using those words. And almost like a there's a collective burn out among us. So i think bearing witness to that and having afront ros seat is, it's, it's a humbling position. Togo: It's creating spaces for spirit to move in ways that we can't manipulate or manufacture. But i think the dryness and the disconnecting their life with god are two things i'm hearing too.

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