Java With Android Development?

I don't know how long it was that you started working with Android? Maybe was it Gingerbread or do you know which version of Android it was? Yeah, it was 4.4. So I think it's more lolica kit cut. Your first kind of programming was that straight Java with Android? Because that's what I kind of hear. Yes, exactly. And then when Kotlin appeared, I also moved to Kotlin. But I mean, Java kind of makes you tear out your hair, right?