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308: Don’t Collect a Lead, Communicate a Message | AudiencePlus Podcast

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The Reality of B to Be Marketing Is That It's Totally Not Working

In 20 19, you launched refined lapse, where obviously you've now formally taken that ceo c o position. Rit: The reality to me, and i think a lot of people will resonate with this, is that b to be marketing is totally stuck. And so i started refine labs with the idea of trying to figure out, how are we going to actually advance demand? How r wr going to advance the science of how we actually manufacture demand right?

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