Tanson: Are you changing in a performative way because somebody else wants it? Or is it really just a little part of you that wants that change when the whole of the rest of you might actually be fighting against it? Then toward the end, I gave a kind of list of things to do in order to establish again a solid ground for changing self concept and self identity. One thing I want to say at the end here that I didn't have an opportunity to during the podcast is that it can be really valuable to be a dreamer. And if we can't view a possibility for ourselves in the future of being a different kind of person, it's very, very hard to

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