I don't believe anybody who has a degree or any credentials in psychology would be in favor of teaching some kids that they're not going to succeed. Tyrone is trying to use what I'll call some tough love so my take is that Tyrone is really trying to help and he's putting himself out there at great risk because he probably thinks black people have this special problem you'll always have this problem no matter what you doyou'll run into this problem if you told me that every day I don't know that I would try so hard, she says.