i think we need to be tending multiple camp fires um and not think of ourselves or rounds for the big, blazing, partisan camp fire. When you have these smaller camp fires, sometimes their very existence can depend on you. And here's the nice thing about being a part of a smaller association, is that you can make a real difference in it. You know, i've heard russell more make the same point. It's so incredibly important to be able to articulate in the opposing side's point of view  in a way that they say, ya, you've nailed it.