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i actually usually put in parentheses, often required, ause i don't want any ill willed stamigoes at all. They're hanging anda, over the years, last two years, i'd say, or so, that i've set it up. But you know, you've probly got three, four thousand people on on my emal list through that passive approach. So i'm far from having mastered any of this, which is why it's so great to talk toyo.