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Surviving Dirty John w/ Debra Newell Pt. 2

Navigating Narcissism with Dr. Ramani

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Did You Ever Attempt to Get a Restraining Order?

"I'm going to put you six feet under or I can't decide whether to hug you or choke you," he told her. "Nobody saw him as a killer yet, by the way, because he'd never killed anyone." She says she tried and tried to get a restraining order against him but couldn't do it. He was losing over and over and over again with everything going on,. And so we had to hire someone to watch him.

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