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#266 – Nicole Perlroth: Cybersecurity and the Weapons of Cyberwar

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Is It Fair Game to China? I Don't Think So.

In 2015, Obama and Xi Jinping reached a deal where basically the White House said, you better cut it out on intellectual property theft. And for a period of about 18 months, we saw this huge drop off in Chinese cyber attacks on American companies. But some of them continued. Why? Because that was still considered fair game to China. It wasn't IP theft, they were after it. They wanted to know who was staying in this city at this time when Chinese citizens were staying there so they could cross match for counterintelligence who might be a likely Chinese spy. I'm sure we're doing some of that too. There's no doubt in my mind that they're testing them on the

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