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The Myth of the NAC
I've never been to an NAC, I've always wanted to sit in on one and see what it was like. This was when Tony Blair was leader, but the NAC was in total control of the Labour Party even during those periods. There's obviously a lot of politics involved, but quite commonly and just a load of people sat around the table. And so we might have difficult debates, and we have, but ultimately, I would hope everybody around the table wants to see a Labour government. That's what we're all there to achieve. We are all representing different parts of the party. And we've got a job of work to do.