Shiv and Tom

I find it fascinating to see people who can be brutal. I value probably truth and trying to tell the truth very highly. And these are people for whom it's a contingent tactic. So that's the way I think about that. But also the writers' rooms are generous. They're sort of, you know, rather warm and woozy and cuddly place where at some points where we do talk about difficult things that have happened to ourselves. There was no floor in terms of how low they could go with each other this season. It felt incredibly credible to me that Shiv wouldn't tell Tom right away that she knows what's happened.