What Is It the Man Boy Love?

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The Michael Jackson case, I think, is not clear. He didn't help his case when he gave an interview with Barbara Walters and she asked him something about spending the night with children. The irritating thing is that film that came out leaving Netherland was Neverland, was made after his death. So he's not there to defend himself when he was actually trying. This all happened up where I'm in Santa Barbara. It's off of what is it, Figaroa Mountain, Canyon Road that goes up. And you can take pictures, people stop and take pictures in front of it. Some wealthy LA real estate mogul bought it and it's interesting to see if he opens it to

Shermer and Gold discuss: diversity, equity, and inclusion in the media • social justice movements and their motivations • bias in STEM fields • why people believe weird things • exorcisms • UFOs • faith healers • Derren Brown and how magic works on minds • hypnosis • sex and where to have an affair • Ashley Madison • female/male differences in sexual preferences and choices • non-offending pedophiles in Berlin • the curious case of Jimmy Seville: why didn’t anyone notice his pedophilia?

Andrew Gold is a British journalist whose podcast On the Edge with Andrew Gold investigates belief, cults and extreme ideologies. He speaks five languages, has lived in six countries and has made award-winning documentaries around the world for the BBC and HBO about fringe topics, from exorcism and UFOs to abortion and porn stars, and even more controversial terrain, such as his two years investigating pedophiles. On his podcast he has interviewed Richard Dawkins, Amanda Knox, John McWhorter, Gad Saad, Peter Boghossian, Robbie Williams and that Shermer guy…as well as several psychopaths, murderers, cult defectors and a guy who had to eat his friends after a plane crash. The reason he started his podcast is because the UK TV producers who work with the BBC kept insisting that he no longer be visible on-screen in his films because, he was told, they needed “a minority.”