How I Got Started in Lightning

I've been in lightning industry since 2019 and through that I've watched this entire network grow. As the first sort of time there was working with Arkane and building like a payment system. So we're building Torque as a very powerful scalable node management system for really large node operations. But people come to us and say, oh, look at the data on Bit refill or coin card. There's not that many people paying with lightning as an example.