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Megan Phelps-Roper on the Value of Empathy

The Ayaan Hirsi Ali Podcast

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You Say, Brave? I Don't Think So

"I actually don't think it was brave or courageous or anything of the sort. It was just having had enough of the physical punishment," he says. "Once i understood that, you know, in islam, you have two angels on either side of your shoulders... and they're monitoring the whole process." He adds: 'There is no such a thing as eternal life'

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