Devop Center and Cumulus Interchange

I don't see them ever getting away from the kind of nice to have, you eyes. It's made it so accessible for so many people. But i think they, i think they can feed into each other. Well, cumulus c i does some of the if we wer just talking abouthat,. You said, devop sinter doesn't ike an cumuluc i will creadit. Are you talking about? Is using camus and devop center? Then i'm saying there two different things. Ye, yei see that. Yes, how much are they ever li, could you use both? Dos ot even make any sense? Or is a