We have a global overpopulation relative to sustainable levels. But we need babies in order to pay for diapers and toys than plumbers and teachers, ultimately pensions. And so that's why these countries like Japan and Italy and Denmark are trying to actually get people to have more children because of the economic risk. The countries in Asia that are merely paying people to having more children are not succeeding. I believe that countries that will control their pollution, their toxicity will succeed eventually.

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