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How Did You Get Your Counseling Degree?
A lot of us have that moment where we think, I'm a nice guy and I'm giving good advice. And it's not happening. So your conclusion was I need to go for a counseling degree. Get it? But like I don't, I don't feel like that's where a lot of advisors end out. No, there's plenty of people in Vanguard that were not like, Oh, yeah, I'm also going to get my counseling degree.