When you were young, your dream was just copying Garfield comics on the kitchen floor and pictures and words were together. All of a sudden things split apart for me and I felt like I had to choose. Like Owen is really into the planets right now. So he's really into like constellations and astronomy stuff. And how he processes that is he draws pictures of the planets. He'll make songs and garage band about the planets. There's no disciplinary divisions. It's totally normal for him to think I'm going to make a zine about going to Cleveland to visit my grandparents. And now I'mgoing to make a song about Cleveland.