Christian hoygens was the one who first figured out the rings of saturn correctly. He did not have a very good data from saturn, ecause the telescope was small and there was no concept of planetary rings. And so this is why, again, back to the rumsfeld known unknown and all that business, you know, are there things in the cosmos that we just can't even conceive of to explain whatever the mystery is? The equivalent of saturn's s for galileo? Yes.

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