And so again, that that would favor the annihilation yon perspective. Now, the traditional view unit, to be honest with you, typically does not focus on this question, or this set of questions that i've just, you know, put out here. Typically the defence of the traditional view is verses like revelation 14 11. And here in revelation 19 three, there is a phrase about the smoke of their torment. In revelation 19 it's her torment, babylon's goes up. The greek term is anabino, goes up for ever and everte seeh that's, that's eternal punishment. It's eternal suffering, cause their smoke keeps going up forever and ever. Now, that sounds like a clear reference to ongoing, never ending punishment. But revelation ninete 19 three, it could be argued that that kind of muddy's the picture. So if we go back to reve tion 19 o, of which we ha just read, just to pick up this one point before we get to the marriage supper, you read this. So it's, again, it's the judgment and of the beast and babylon and and all this stuff, the great prostitute. And specifically, it says, the smoke from her o her, her punishment, goes up for ver and ever. So here's the question, and this is a ilegitimate interpretive question, is god's vengeance against babylon and the beast going to be forever on going, like even in the new eden, god is still taking revenge against babylon and the beast? Or does the language just mean it was permanent and irreversible? So again, this this whole notion, again, we're back to the same question. Does the language say, dos favor annihilation? Its permanent and irreversible? Or is it this ongoing vengeance, ongoing dyingand again, the issue being the death of death. Now, interestingly enough, when you get into verses six through ten, which we're going too for the bulk of the episode, to day, when you get to the marriage supper of the lamb, that passagean the whole, the whole concept of the great n times banquet, the messianic banquet, the escatological banquet, is going to draw on isaiah 25. And in isaiah 25 eight, you even there, you have a reference to the death of deat.