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The PES Outlaw, the Ultimate Orange
I didn't have caffeine until or I should say consistently as a pre workout until I was 17 or 18, but it wasn't there weren't really energy drinks. The hardcore bodybuilding space had ultimate orange, ultimate orange. Dan Duquesne now passed away. He would write books on steroids and on like the black market, gray market supplements. So he had a product called ultimate orange and had a fedra, a fedra and caffeine. And let me tell you, that's drugs. That is drugs, bro. As a 17 year old taking it. It's probably why I have auto immune issues with fucking suit with sugar after every workout. You guys just rewind talking about