$44 trillion of the global economy was mostly or somewhat dependent on nature. We know all the metrics are in decline, that's what the negotiators and the governments have been working to try and come up with a new framework for biodiversity. And so we're in this sort of slight conundrum where capitalism and the rampant growth that we've had has clearly lifted people out of poverty but also created extraordinary wealth. It can't be the same red tooth capitalism that we've got today. There is an intrinsic value to things like biodiversity or in human health, but at the same time, we pay doctors and nurses and entire healthcare system as well. Both things obviously intersect.