Joe's Coming Off Like a Pile of Hit?

I don't think it's his intention to be a piece of shit. But I also think he doesn't recognize some of the things Alex is saying. He misses point A because Alex is already on to point D. So there's some of that. It's one of the intrinsic problems of why you should never have Alex on your show. He's going to say things that you're just incapable of responding to. And then it's broadcast unchallenged unquestioned on your show, right? To 120,000 people live and more people after the fact.