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Malcolm Gladwell famously made popular the idea of 10,000 hours of practice for mastery in his book Outliers. This comes with all sorts of caveats, but the concept holds up an interesting mirror. The other day I was asked, ‘How do you start writing books?’ As I attempted to give an answer, I realized that I’d been writing to find my own voice for 40 years now. I must have written about a billion sentences by now, and I’ve come to understand where my edge is. Perhaps that’s what mastery is - not a completion but rather an increasingly subtle understanding of where you’re honing the edge of yourself and your craft.  

Eric Klein is first and foremost a dear friend and returning guest, but also a spiritual teacher and author. Five years ago, I’d have added that his focus is geared towards bringing greater spirit, mindfulness and meaning to the workplace, but that’s shifted a bit since then. Presently, Eric offers the same through his community at Wisdom Heart, helping people to be on a spiritual path, while still walking in the world. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/ 

Eric reads two pages from The Bhagavad Gita. [reading begins at 18:05]  

Hear us discuss: 

The task of rejecting the conventional path to pursue the call of spirituality: “I thought I could ‘hack’ the process and not come to terms with my inheritance.” [9:49] | Undergoing spiritual experiences without crisis. [26:14] | How to manage your expertise: “To be a good teacher, always have part of your mind in the student’s seat.” [32:32] | “Reality can only wake up in your life as you.” [38:22]