In trying to encapsulate black Britishness or black British experiences, I don't think you can get away from the negative aspects of it. And there's always the race is always an element in one's life. So I was trying to kind of open out this idea of race and say we should all be carrying this. Do you like to talk about the writing process via your characters within your books as a way to sort of deal with your own processes? Yeah, I do use the squeezy stress buster brick when I'm struggling. It also features briefly in the novel. You're writing all these things that are familiar to anyone who wants to write. Yes. Your next object is

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