I'd like to ask the panel what special place in hell is reserved for people o, who are so cavalier about the very the most vulnerable in our society. Nd, there is, yes, earlier on the discussion, matthew goodwin got dangerously close to actually answering the question by the debate, which is, should we and how can we blame liberals for the rise of popularism? I'd love to hear the panel just addressed that point, please. Ad, i'm just going to wait to find people with microphones. Has loe, if you could make, say, make ask questions rather than make statements, i'll try.

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