North American aviation built the engines with a subsidiary called Rocketdyne that was a part of the North American aviation. The difference between the one that they used on the two stage vehicle and the J2 engine they used on them, the moon mission, we had a restartable engine because we had to restart our engine. You got this 260,000 pounds in orbit. And that's a lot of weight and what we call a circular parking orbit for a couple of ribs there with our first burn.

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