I think we could do with the doors of campaigning mindset at the moment. There does seem to be this sort of immense frustration amongst climate campaigners around the world. We are talking about a vast urgent change that needs to happen in the next few years. And every month that we don't, the chance of implementing those changes lessens dramatically. I'm simply saying that then to launch that within the particular framework, which is so complicated and particularly, because the other thing I mentioned, China. This isn't going to be done unless there is right across the world and understand that among people and amongst political leaders,. That really big changes need to happen.

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