In your field, my perception is that there's this sort of bifurcation between these optimists and maybe you call them realists or pessimists. I think most people in AI would agree that we're pretty far from what we might call human level AI, but disagree on what that actually is. And also disagree on what should the field be aiming towards? Should it be aiming towards some general AGI, artificial general intelligence, or should it be focusing more on the kinds of narrow AI we have now?

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