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The Greatest Moral Debt Is Not to Them, It's to You
i was going to mention taylor. We've alrady got him a couple of times in the podcast. But i think whas one of the challenges that we face, that it's not so much that people come in consciously thinking, i can either look outside myself or inside myself. It's that people, even as they're dissatisfied with the self helped concepts, just keep pursuing more self helped concepts. And then you get to sort of talk to them in the place of that longing, that disappointment and hope for the transcendent.