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“Between Barack and A Hard Place.”
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Trump Rallyes
"I do think there's something to be said for, and you both mentioned this, the humor involved," he says. "He does not want to make people fear demagogues and conspiracy theorists." Trump rallies obviously can end up seeming very dark and angry and scary at times, especially when they're doing the QAnon thing with the fingers up,. But most of the time the people there are there because they feel entertained. They're having a good time for whatever reason".
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