The Hard Times of Producing Records

Ralen Humm was a fork in the road moment that a lot of bands have. I stopped producing records after that. That's how hard that record was to make. As Bono would say, it is something in the documentary. He said, well, we broke him. But as the producer, it's all going through you,. You're like, I'm out. Good luck guys. I am. They didn't ask me, but I said, even if they asked me, I'm not going to Berlin. So I started a record company and it was in a scope. It just kept working, you know.