Jon carlo devasini went from plastic surgeon to tech equipment ontrepenur and eventually found his way to crypto. His business ventures had ended quite spectacularly, and for whatever reason, he was portraying the end of that time of his life differently in public. Reporting on john carlo compelled sid and cadam to also want to look into jon carlo's business partner, j l Vanderwald. Caham and sid say it's not clear when exactly, but jean carlo devassini and j l vanderveld have been long time business partners well before tether was a thing.