How Are You Doing With Layoffs?

Matt Chan: I think it is such a unique experience for us to have you as someone who is doing some of the layoffs to have you on this podcast. To be able to say that I, I want to make sure that we're thinking, you know, employee first and knowing that everybody in the room is in agreement with that actually feels really good. He says there's a lot of sleepless nights because then there's like the guilt of how can I be having fun right now when all this stuff is going on. "Self care is extremely important," he says.

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