Oudon: We haven't fortified people's ability and commitment, the commitment first, and then the ability to come back to themselves. There's so much fear riht in an habiting like what it means to truly be with yourself. So we started the sit called the no big deal sit - i introduced this what i call point meditation. You don't need a metitation cushion. Oudon: The most important thing is that it's transportable to like i'm sitting here with you right now.

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