How to have difficult conversations - with Gina Martin
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The Disbelief of Changing the Law
I remember when the law came in for upscirting thinking like, finally, because the digital world was moving so quickly. There's this disbelief that you'll ever be able to finish the first bit, which is like make people care enough about the thing. And then there's this belief that I'll be able to turn it into a effective campaign. But there came a point where I had to let go. Because I can't make an institution essentially do their job. It doesn't matter how many conversations I have. You know, rape is essentially decriminalized in the UK. It's one of percent prosecution. So it got to the point where I choose to be and do cultural work
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