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Ep. 193: Raphael Navot on Non-Industrial Design and Mending the Non-Spoken

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The Color of Brown

Raphael: Brown is cool. It's not a beautiful name. When you talk about wood, we never say the color of Brown. We call it tobacco. Oh, we have all kind of fancy walnut here and nice names to it. But it's still brown. Well, Raphael, thank you so much for talking to me today. This has been really, really delightful. My pleasure. Hey, thanks so much for listening. If you can think of three people who'd be inspired by clever, please tell them about us. You can listen to clever on any of the podcast apps.

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