There's an anarchist crypto OG group, which is separate money from state and Eric Voorhees. The other group I'm most fascinated in is kind of the original one, which is crypto rails for traditional finance that it was always a hard thing. And so I think you'll see a lot of building there. A real company is taking loyalty points, which ironically is in the original Satoshi Nakamoto bootstrapping thing of how we thought this would be used Wasn't enough? We did the interview with Starbucks and Adam Brotman. He thinks people are super interested in following the gaming space and digitization of assets. But he doesn't know how long it will take to break

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