The Smart Debate: Who's Smarter?

Hank Kingsley: We're going to do now that other people have lived off Ryan's sloppy seconds. Fred Wilson and Anand from CB Insights jumped in on this as well recently. He says there are a lot more votes in the public market than the private market, on valuation and price. Hank Kingsley: Venture guys actually are seeing growth rates and adoption rates that we've never seen before.