Taking Conversation Seriously

Comedian Robby Hoffman explains why she treats complaining as "enjoying"—and why her Depression-era instincts make her shakier during good times than disasters. Her approach to stand-up is visceral rather than cerebral: she doesn't remember the bit about the woman closing the airplane bathroom door, she replays the movie and watches her body operate on its own. Along the way: memories of growing up with nine siblings in Montreal poverty, where conflict wasn't optional ("we didn't get to not know anything"), the nightstand intervention that changed her brother Schnaer's life, and why she keeps a crisp $100 bill in her wallet like Depression-era insurance. Plus, the greatest taxonomy of social fakery ever delivered by a lesbian comedian—a warning that "being offended isn't that bad" and people who put "kind" in their Twitter bios are statistically suspect.

Produced by Corey Wara

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