The party is not a platform for us it is to create platforms and this space. And o the w e p does that, we work very hard to do that. But it doesn't mean that that's an easy thing to do at all, am. There is a great deal of suspicion sometimes on the part of people in different marginalized groups who have traditionally been ridden over or had their voices id out. So i started by asking, do laws need to change, or do culture?

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