Introduction

This week the final episode of servant, a pod with the verges ashy kerman on the states of the padcass industry. Is this what podcasting looks like to day? From elia's studios. Eles studios is sponsored by better help on line therapy. Elaist listeners get ten % off their first month of on line therapy at better help dot com slash elaist. That's better h e l p dotcom slash l a i s t,. i'm jadabumrad, greater of radio lab and iraglass. And i ira, host of this american life. He and i are coming to l a for a special live show