The problem for me is that the public will never agree about what constitutes evidence or more fundamentally We'll never agree on the core value questions about Justice. That's because they don't know what science is and how and why it works. And by the way, there's no sharp line in the sand for that It's a little bit of a fuzzy line Yeah, but you know it when you cross it where yeah, earth goes around the fucking Sun Okay, not the other way around.