i hope, i hope you're able to do that. I'd also recommend jason hill. He's on my pockast saturday. We're releasing ta this week. Don't think shelvy steele or ibramax kendia are going to single handedly solve the problem but probably product a productive conversation between them and everybody in between them. There certainly is a lack of moral complexity here. But if we can't look at history and how that word was used, and you nont get that viceral sense of shock from it, that's surely something that will be more effective against racism than not reading the book. It does actually cause people er significant amount of

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